It also depends what the final version of the bill says, but in the end, if there is a mandate to buy health insurance, there is a penalty of jail time, either for not buying insurance or for not paying the fine.
There is no fine or jail time for failing to buy health insurance. The article you linked to is lying.
What they are talking about is the “individual mandate” which is contained in the bill. I am not a fan of the individual mandate, but basically it is a change in tax law that says that when you file your taxes, you have to declare if you have a qualifying health plan or not. If you don’t, you owe an extra tax. And if you can’t afford it there is a subsidy.
It would probably have been far better to impose the extra tax on everyone, then allow a deduction for those with qualifying plans. I don’t like the mechanism, but it is an attempt to make freeloaders pay. Being a free spirit isn’t free.
There is no penalty for “not having insurance.” What they are hyperventilating about is the penalty for not filing or paying your taxes.
The note Ensign got does not describe the House bill. It describes a section of existing tax law that says you have to file your taxes. The same law that got Al Capone and Wesley Snipes. How stupid is Ensign that he required confirmation of that?
There’s no mandate without a penalty. “An extra tax” for not buying insurance is known in layman’s terms as a “fine.” If you choose not to pay the “extra tax” or “fine,” you would eventually go to jail.
The important nuance to remember here is that this legislation in large part is not a stand alone law, but an amendment to several others.
H.R. 3962 will achieve its ends by amending the Social Security Act, the Medicare Act and the Internal Revenue Code among others.
Because the health care mandate carries with it penalties that will be enforcable by the IRS, and because failure to carry insurance will be punishable under Section 7203 of the IRS code, thus comes the possibility of jail time for not carrying health insurance.
But no, its not directly written into H.R. 3962. Hence the reason that Senator Ensign needed the opinion of the JCT.
So noman…I guess you are saying that there is no monthy payment for health care then?
And if you mean that there is is a monthly premium, but a low $ amount, then again….where in the hell are they going to get the money if they are unemployed.
No Sir….I won’t trust them to run these things. They have a bad track record when it comes to the government managing a program. Just look at social Security. That money was supposed to be for “our” retirement. Not for them to dip into….which is why we are the mess we are in today with Social Security.
Are there provisions in this bill that specifically state that congress nor the president can dip into this healthcare fund for any reason what-so-ever? Nor can they divert any funds from the healthcare?
If you think I am a little ticked…yes you are right. I’m ticked off at both the Dems and Repubs. Both of those parties git us here.