S0 Longwood Gardens has now put 10 acres of virgin ground into darkness under these “attractive” (NOT) solar panels. It will make the amount of electricity that would power 138 homes.
They are afraid that they won’t be able to expand this with the other phase that they had planned because there is a glut of the solar energy credits on the market that make this economically feasible. They only have value because the electric companies are forced to buy the credits by law. The costs are then passed on, through higher electric rates, to consumers who are already having a hard time paying their bills in the “ObamaConomy”. The Longwood director says:
But as far as the second phase, “As far as I’m concerned, the project’s dead, until the State of Pennsylvania gets its act together,” Redman said.
But help may be on the way, the PA legislature is considering a bill to force the companies to buy more of these worthless credits. So he looks forward to the state taking more money out of the pockets of the long suffering homeowners to fund this homage to the Greenys. Delaware has dealt with the low price problem caused by the glut of these SRECs by “Price Fixing” them at above market rates. So we Delawareans are being ripped off two ways. We have the best politicians money can buy! Yea!!
5,000 solar panels installed at Longwood | The News Journal | delawareonline.com.
Steve, people like solar panels because you just lay them in the sun, they put out electricity no moving parts no pollution. When you think about it, it’s a very neat concept. I think it appeals to techies more than greenies.
Down in Texas they love it. Governor Perry put solar on the Mansion and he’s pouring all kinds of money and incentives into solar. The greenie cowboys in the Lone Star State are leading the way with big Texas sized megawatts of solar and wind.
New technology is like a steamroller. It slowly comes along and if you don’t get out of the way you get flattened. My grandfather told me that when the first refrigerators were being rolled out, neophobics were making the case for the iceman. The argument was it was cheaper to cool food with delivered ice than use a complex machine to do it. Ice was a nickel. The first refrigerators cost 10000x more.
I think you may be getting the wrong idea from talk radio. That solar has something to do with being a leftwing liberal. Governor Perry disproves that theory. Don’t worry, this new fangled stuff will all work out. Long live the iceman.
Bill, I don’t remember mentioning “leftwing liberals” in this posting. Just Greedy Greenys who are sponging off their fellow citizens to subsidize their electric bills and forcing people to buy things from them under the threat of prison or death. But if you see them as one in the same, I won’t argue with you.
I must say that I am surprised that you admire Governor Perry’s intellect to the extent that he is your sole proof source on the economic feasibility of solar. Don’t you usually rely on Wikipedia?
It appears even Longwood, devoted since it’s foundation to creating a horitcultural paradise, is now committed to destroying part of the environment in order to “save” it.
It’s “its;” not “it’s.”
Steve, you didn’t say leftwing liberal in your post. I said that I think you are against solar because you probably see it more as a political thing than a technology thing. Plus Rush Limbaugh is dead set against all that stuff so I figure you must be.
From your past posts you sound against anything that has anything to do with anything different than what we already do. Cool. You can watch others change the world for the better.
Not just Perry in Texas. GOP Congress GOP Texan George Bush put solar on the White House, on his ranch. it was the GOP that didthe Energy Policy Act of 2005. That’s how Solyndra and all the alt energy start ups got lined up for Energy Department loans. Were no such loans before GWBush and his totally conservative Congress made it happen.
You sound like you don’t really know much about who’s who in the greenie world. Did you know real hard core conservatives jump started all these alt energy loan programs?
A lot folks who think we need alt Energy Policy for national security reasons. Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. Check it out on Wiki and Google. Every single President has been big on this stuff. Mainly for National Security reasons. If you’re worried about relative costs, please factor the cost of oil wars before you say alternatives cost more.
Wait until hydrogen comes along. You’re really going to hate that.
Those who want to stay with imported oil, like Steve and Fay need to explain why.
From Fay’s comment, she can’t even stand the sight of a solar panel. Far out.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Longwood is good at deciding what beauty is. Fay should write to Longwood. Tell them they are destroying the environment with solar.
If it helps you deal with all the change that’s happening, remember Einstein: energy is never created or destroyed. Accordingly, oil gas solar wind hydrogen energy are all from one universal source. One distinction is that a lot of our oil for transportation comes from the Middle East in such a way that it restricts American sovereignty. That’s why so many of us are greenies. National sovereignty. That’s why the Bush’s and the Perry’s are all for it.
Rush Limbaugh and Kim Kardashian are against solar. You and Fay are anti-solar, but most of the rest of America is cheering all this on. Einstein would probably live it.
All fascinating. But it is not all that difficult. I am not against solar or the rest of this stuff. If it is offered to the free market and people voluntarily decide to purchase it, fine, mazel tov. I don’t care if it is stupid to buy it, so long as it is your own money it is none of my business. But, if money is stolen from one citizen and put in the pocket of another to pay for their toys and hobbies, that is bad. I am not all that interested in whether Limbaugh or a bunch of politicians think that it is good.
New is not bad. I like my new smart phone. AT&T just sent me a replacement for the one that almost caught fire in my pocket last week. But I still like it even though I know it is just a toy and I should not expect my neighbors to pay for it.
Want to be energy independent? Try coal; works good and we have enough here for over a hundred years. The ChiComs are opening a new coal plant every week to produce cheap electricity so that they can make solar panels that the stupid Americans will buy as we spend ourselves into oblivion. Just because something is new does not mean it is good; you need to learn that.
Did I mess up my “its and it’s” again, Fay? I have not found a good memory peg for that.
No, no! Actually, Steve, I was self correcting my post in which I messed up the “its and it’s.” Wasn’t correcting you.
“Just because something is new does not mean it is good.”
Amen to that. Just one example: the shoe fluoroscope:
https://www.google.com/search?q=shoe+fluoroscope&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=cPKeT527AqLW0QG8yMGEDw&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1067&bih=479
Bill, who llikes government supported ANYTHING–since he loves, loves Big Government–probably would have supported having one of these new fangled gimmicks installed in every shoe store around the globe, courtesy of Uncle Sam.
That’s because he would have loved the new machine, especially if it were solar powered.
Even if it meant frying little kids’ feet.
Steve, glad you’re not against everything new. You sure sound like it sometimes.
By the way where did you get that bit about stealing money from one person to give to another?
Stealing means to take from another without a legal right. How does that fit with solar?
Fay, I do love our big government. I think it fits our big USA pretty well. Fifty states, 300 million people, the world’s biggest economy, strongest military. We have a system where we can be proud of the living standard most of our elders poor and disabled are afforded. We saved the whole world a couple times. There’s nothing small about the USA, not our accomplishments, not our dreams, not Government.
If the Founders were small minded we probably would still be 13 states. This here is a big place with big everything. Big buildings, big highways, big banks, big corporations, big government. I would hate to see us get small.
While I agree that taxes have become necessary to finance constitutional governmental functions, I regard the government taking money from one citizen to give it to another to finance his toys and hobbies to be theft. Forcing a private company such as Delmarva to act as proxy for the government by buying SRECs from one citizen and collecting the money to pay for them through higher electric rates is government theft as well. Federal tax credits on installing the toys would seem to be extra-constitutional.
There are things that are legal for a state, county or city to do that are illegal for the federal government to do.
Steve, you need to be more respectful of our official english language.
The words theft, rape, stealing, murder – all have specific meanings. When a policeman handcuffs somebody it’s not “kidnapping”. The correct word is “arrest”. Paying a parking fine is not extortion or embezzlement.
I think when the Soviet Union fell, it created a such an emotional void that some people transferred that chronic fear and loathing to our own red white and blue government of the USA. The USA is the new enemy. Stealing our money. Strangling us in tyranny. The cradle of freedom is our to crush freedom.
Personally, I think going to the moon and speed limits are unconstitutional. I read read read the Constitution. No helmet laws. Nothing about 65 MPG. Nothing about the government being so involved with the airports.
And the United States 700 MHz FCC wireless spectrum auction? Officially known as Auction 73 – where do we find that? Where does it say the government is in charge of 700 MHz?
Maybe a new Amendment: Congress shall have no power to get involved in the future of the Nation.
Delmarva has lawyers. Let me know when they use your unconstitutional argument.